Editing Talk:Call to Duty (section)

==Merging Work==

"Call to Duty" is a class of quests that is directly linked to an "FB", whether you want to call that FB the quest tablet or the dungeon. Therefore, any information concerning the overall type of quest will go into this page. Anything instance specific will go to the page for that instance as it is relative to CtD/FB quests, Bounty Hunter quests, and OHT chain quests, among many more.

I don't agree with moving this content into the page [[Call to Duty (FB)]], because when you are talking about an FB quest, you are talking about a CtD. Like Promethean stated, the FB is generally thought of as the place. We don't need one page to cover 13 instances. Instead, I feel it is more appropriate to have a page about the quest (CtD), and just make pages that refer to an "FB" in general refer here.

The bulk of the instance specific information has been moved to the instance pages and a consistent format has been imposed on them. The draft for the new version of this (merged) page will be below the HR, but I won't put it into the main page until all the other information has been moved and is linked properly.
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TODO list:
#Determine formatting scheme for list of FBs.
#*Preferably, I'd like to use the unmarked map image here.
#*Potentially use a grid to lay out 29-79 as those are straight forward. Have the race specific dungeons above, separately. Have the Demon/Sage dungeons below, each in their own separate table.
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Potential Layout:
*FB19 FB19 FB19
*(links to quests for Tideborn/Earthguard - put a note in another section about how they don't have a real instance)
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*FB29 FB39 FB51
*FB59 FB69 FB79
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*Demon FB89 FB99
*Sage FB89 FB99
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--[[User:Flyingsoloist|Flyingsoloist]] 09:09, 11 July 2011 (PDT)
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*Added Chinese characters to history section.
*Maps added and formatted into sections and grids.
*Added comment about lack of Tideborn/Earthguard FB19s.
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--[[User:Flyingsoloist|Flyingsoloist]] 10:34, 11 July 2011 (PDT)
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:FYI, "instance" ''is'' the best translation for "fuben" (as explained on the [[Call to Duty]] page), so I'd rather not see the other incorrect information on the page.  There was a rather lengthy discussion of the term by a few posters in the forum, and there is no "fu" or "ben" that means "iron" or "tablet" in Chinese, IIRC, so that claim is just wrong.  If you pop "副本" into the Systran translation software, it translates it as "transcription" (i.e. a copy of text), so we can be reasonably certain that that information is correct.  Long story short, "FB" = "fuben" = "副本" = "instance" was pretty well confirmed in the forums.  (I'd scrounge up a link, but I just had a 9 hour work day, and I'm too frazzled to search at the moment. :-P )  Thanks. -- [[User:Sangodoc|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc - PWI wiki mod</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 18:57, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
::Addendum: You may also want to incorporate or link to the information on the [[Dungeons]] page regarding instances and such. -- [[User:Sangodoc|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc - PWI wiki mod</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 19:03, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

::I knew that it was the correct term, but I wanted to put the other versions of it's "history" down since that's what you hear from people in game. When I first wrote that section, I spent a couple minutes looking for an impartial source for the translation but I only came across the Japanese translation. I saw the forum threads, and thought about linking to them, but really that just gives you a "he-said" "she-said" battle since all of the meanings that I listed were on those threads. I'd be more than happy to link to something solid, I'm just not sure what that page is yet. Regardless, I think it's good to have the alternate versions since 9 times out of 10, that's what people will be telling you in game. It also helps to explain why only certain instances are referred to as FBs and why we don't have things such as FB1-1 or FB:FF. The history of the term is not just the literal translation but the cultural reception and, in this case, misconception. But anyway, I've reorganized it a bit and reworded a couple things so that it should be a little clearer now. I hadn't come across the [[Dungeons]] page yet (so many pages to look at in this merge!), but I'll definitely go through it before merge completion. --[[User:Flyingsoloist|Flyingsoloist]] 08:31, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

::Initially, I had this section at the bottom of this page since the name doesn't have much influence on running the set of quests. Earlier I stumbled across the [[Myths and Misinformation]] page and this might be a good candidate for an addition there. If you agree, I can redraft this section to make it fit with that page and then move it there. At the same time, I'll swap out references on pages like this/[[Dungeons]]/etc for something short and sweet with a see more link pointing at the new section for M&M. I just feel like the misconception that "fuben" = "iron tablet" is common enough that it merits mentioning. --[[User:Flyingsoloist|Flyingsoloist]] 13:34, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

:::Sounds fine to me, just try to follow the format on the M&M page.  (Currently the last item on that page needs to be fixed to follow the format of the rest of the page.)  I have tomorrow off, so I'll probably be working on the wiki some more then.  And thanks again for all of your efforts here!  They're really great and some were/are long overdue.  -- [[User:Sangodoc|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc - PWI wiki mod</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 19:12, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

::::I reworked the section and grabbed a link to the Google Translator as something more impartial. I also linked one of the threads that showed the debate and why people think it's this or that. I know the quote is mine and I feel weird quoting myself, but I've had too foul a morning to dig up anything better and that was on this page and popped out to me. I don't really care if it's changed or if another one is added or whatever. It's mainly a placeholder. I'm planning on going through a lot of other pages with this explanation and making sure that it's consistent and not overly redundant. I may add to the explanation below if I find a good tidbit here or there and then just change links around, but it all depends on what I find. I'm also hoping to finish the move/merge stuff first so there are fewer links that will have to be adjusted once things are in their proper place.
::::I'm glad my changes have been useful, but to be quite honest, I've had waaaay too much down time the last week or so to not pick up a major project. But things are looking like they're going to be picking up soon, so the quantity and frequency of my work will probably drop before too long. --[[User:Flyingsoloist|Flyingsoloist]] 09:37, 14 July 2011 (PDT)

Content moved to appropriate pages. I'm calling this one merge complete as is and will start cleaning out the old source pages. There's still work to be done on related pages for sure, but as for the merge itself, I think we can check that one off. --[[User:Flyingsoloist|Flyingsoloist]] 09:17, 18 July 2011 (PDT)

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