Archer Demon vs Sage - Revision history

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	If you're an archer heading towards level 89 it's time to decide if you're going to go demon or sage. This page compares and contrasts the differences between demon and sage for archers to help you decide which is for you.		If you're an archer heading towards level 89 it's time to decide if you're going to go demon or sage. This page compares and contrasts the differences between demon and sage for archers to help you decide which is for you.

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	As an Archer, a Bow is the weapon of choice for PvP. Primary reason is that most end-game bows have the interval of a slingshot, a better damage spread, and the ability to <b>purge</b>. As of June 6, 2011, most servers have ~~lol~~ heavily geared characters. This ranges from TT99 to Rank 9. Most end-game characters usually have higher refines and better physical defense. The best geared characters are impossible to kill as an archer when they're fully buffed.		As an Archer, a Bow is the weapon of choice for PvP. Primary reason is that most end-game bows have the interval of a slingshot, a better damage spread, and the ability to <b>purge</b>. As of June 6, 2011, most servers have heavily geared characters. This ranges from TT99 to Rank 9. Most end-game characters usually have higher refines and better physical defense. The best geared characters are impossible to kill as an archer when they're fully buffed.

PWpedia>Dari0: /* PvP Cultivation Comparisons */

2013-12-18T23:20:04Z

PvP Cultivation Comparisons

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	As an Archer, a Bow is the weapon of choice for PvP. Primary reason is that most end-game bows have the interval of a slingshot, a better damage spread, and the ability to <b>purge</b>. As of June 6, 2011, most servers have heavily geared characters. This ranges from TT99 to Rank 9. Most end-game characters usually have higher refines and better physical defense. The best geared characters are impossible to kill as an archer when they're fully buffed.		As an Archer, a Bow is the weapon of choice for PvP. Primary reason is that most end-game bows have the interval of a slingshot, a better damage spread, and the ability to <b>purge</b>. As of June 6, 2011, most servers have lol heavily geared characters. This ranges from TT99 to Rank 9. Most end-game characters usually have higher refines and better physical defense. The best geared characters are impossible to kill as an archer when they're fully buffed.

PWpedia>Sangodoc: /* PvP Cultivation Comparisons */ Quickshot correction

2013-09-25T06:31:22Z

PvP Cultivation Comparisons: Quickshot correction

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	Again critical-rate favors a demon cultivation. Demons can improve their chances of critical hits when they use their critical-rate increasing skills, combined with their attack speed increasing Quickshot. For sage archers, critical rate ~~will never change~~.		Again critical-rate favors a demon cultivation. Demons can improve their chances of critical hits when they use their critical-rate increasing skills, combined with their attack speed increasing Quickshot. For sage archers, Quickshot is the only sage skill to increase their critical rate.
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PWpedia>Sangodoc: /* Demon/Sage Skill Comparisons */ Updated sage Quickstrike skill description

2013-09-25T06:28:43Z

Demon/Sage Skill Comparisons: Updated sage Quickstrike skill description

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	* 50% ~~chance~~ for ~~20 chi~~.		* Gain 10 chi and +20% critstrike rate for 10 seconds.
	* ~~Not very practical~~ to ~~use - doesn't~~ increase ~~overall damage output~~.		* The only sage skill upgrade to increase the rate of critical strikes.
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	* 50% chance to increase attack rate (equivalent to -0.1 interval).		* 50% chance to increase attack rate by 30% for 6 seconds (equivalent to -0.1 interval).
	* Increases damage with a bow significantly.		* Increases damage with a bow significantly.
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PWpedia>Sangodoc: Undo revision 176221 by Peachyku (talk) (It wasn't "forgotten" it changed.)

2013-09-25T06:20:13Z

Undo revision 176221 by Peachyku (talk) (It wasn't "forgotten" it changed.)

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	Again critical-rate favors a demon cultivation. Demons can improve their chances of critical hits when they use their critical-rate increasing skills, combined with their attack speed increasing Quickshot. For sage archers, critical rate will never change. ~~(Lol u forgot sage quickshot increase 20% critical rate)~~		Again critical-rate favors a demon cultivation. Demons can improve their chances of critical hits when they use their critical-rate increasing skills, combined with their attack speed increasing Quickshot. For sage archers, critical rate will never change.
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PWpedia>Peachyku: /* PvP Cultivation Comparisons */

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PvP Cultivation Comparisons

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	Again critical-rate favors a demon cultivation. Demons can improve their chances of critical hits when they use their critical-rate increasing skills, combined with their attack speed increasing Quickshot. For sage archers, critical rate will never change.		Again critical-rate favors a demon cultivation. Demons can improve their chances of critical hits when they use their critical-rate increasing skills, combined with their attack speed increasing Quickshot. For sage archers, critical rate will never change. (Lol u forgot sage quickshot increase 20% critical rate)
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PWpedia>Sangodoc: Updated tables; removed unnecessary text coloring

2012-11-10T21:36:39Z

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	The question is: how much of a difference does critical rate make? Does an archer with 2% more passive critical rate, hit more critical hits? What about 10%? The answer comes from the statistics, more specifically the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution Binomial Distribution]. For those less-math-literate people reading this article, the binomial distribution basically tells us how likely ~~<font color=red>~~'''K-critical hits'''~~</font>~~ are likely in ~~<font color=red>~~'''N shots'''~~</font>~~, with a ~~<font color=red>~~'''critical rate of P'''~~</font>~~.		The question is: how much of a difference does critical rate make? Does an archer with 2% more passive critical rate, hit more critical hits? What about 10%? The answer comes from the statistics, more specifically the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution Binomial Distribution]. For those less-math-literate people reading this article, the binomial distribution basically tells us how likely '''K-critical hits''' are likely in '''N shots''', with a '''critical rate of P'''.


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	<big><font color=darkorange>''Sage sharpened tooth's 20% HP reduction is more useful.''</font></big>		<big><font color=darkorange>''Sage sharpened tooth's 20% HP reduction is more useful.''</font></big>
	* Totally in PvE, but not as far as PvP is concerned. The 4% advantage over demon Sharpened Tooth Arrow is minuscule and insignificant for low HP targets. Against better geared players with a little over 10,000 HP, a 4% difference translates to a mere 400-ish HP. Granted 400 HP might make the difference between death an ticking in rare circumstances, but most players with over 10,000 HP have insane gears. If you're not dealing quantities of damage that are much over 2000 HP a shot, you're going to get pulverized long before you make that 400 HP matter.		* Totally in PvE, but not as far as PvP is concerned. The 4% advantage over demon Sharpened Tooth Arrow is minuscule and insignificant for low HP targets. Against better geared players with a little over 10,000 HP, a 4% difference translates to a mere 400-ish HP. Granted 400 HP might make the difference between death an ticking in rare circumstances, but most players with over 10,000 HP have insane gears. If you're not dealing quantities of damage that are much over 2000 HP a shot, you're going to get pulverized long before you make that 400 HP matter.
	* Against very high HP targets in TW ([[Territory War]]) such as catapult barbarians, 4% HP may translate into 800, 1200, or 1600 HP more HP taken off than demon Sharpened Tooth. While this matters from the prospective that a turtled barbarian will turn all 4 digit damage into low 3-digit damage, it is really insignificant when you consider that '''Bloodvow''' is your choice of skill here. Furthermore if a barbarian managed to turtle in TW, it means you ~~<font color=red>~~'''lack demon cultivated characters using Mo-Zun's Taunt (chi stealing).'''~~</font>~~		* Against very high HP targets in TW ([[Territory War]]) such as catapult barbarians, 4% HP may translate into 800, 1200, or 1600 HP more HP taken off than demon Sharpened Tooth. While this matters from the prospective that a turtled barbarian will turn all 4 digit damage into low 3-digit damage, it is really insignificant when you consider that '''Bloodvow''' is your choice of skill here. Furthermore if a barbarian managed to turtle in TW, it means you '''lack demon cultivated characters using Mo-Zun's Taunt (chi stealing).'''

	== Thoughts and Considerations for End-Game cultivation choice ==		== Thoughts and Considerations for End-Game cultivation choice ==

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	The question is: how much of a difference does critical rate make? Does an archer with 2% more passive critical rate, hit more critical hits? What about 10%? The answer comes from the statistics, more specifically the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution Binomial Distribution]. For those less-math-literate people reading this article, the binomial distribution basically tells us how likely '''K-critical hits''' are likely in '''N shots''', with a '''critical rate of P'''.		The question is: how much of a difference does critical rate make? Does an archer with 2% more passive critical rate, hit more critical hits? What about 10%? The answer comes from the statistics, more specifically the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution Binomial Distribution]. For those less-math-literate people reading this article, the binomial distribution basically tells us how likely <font color=red>'''K-critical hits'''</font> are likely in <font color=red>'''N shots'''</font>, with a <font color=red>'''critical rate of P'''</font>.


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	<big><font color=darkorange>''Sage sharpened tooth's 20% HP reduction is more useful.''</font></big>		<big><font color=darkorange>''Sage sharpened tooth's 20% HP reduction is more useful.''</font></big>
	* Totally in PvE, but not as far as PvP is concerned. The 4% advantage over demon Sharpened Tooth Arrow is minuscule and insignificant for low HP targets. Against better geared players with a little over 10,000 HP, a 4% difference translates to a mere 400-ish HP. Granted 400 HP might make the difference between death an ticking in rare circumstances, but most players with over 10,000 HP have insane gears. If you're not dealing quantities of damage that are much over 2000 HP a shot, you're going to get pulverized long before you make that 400 HP matter.		* Totally in PvE, but not as far as PvP is concerned. The 4% advantage over demon Sharpened Tooth Arrow is minuscule and insignificant for low HP targets. Against better geared players with a little over 10,000 HP, a 4% difference translates to a mere 400-ish HP. Granted 400 HP might make the difference between death an ticking in rare circumstances, but most players with over 10,000 HP have insane gears. If you're not dealing quantities of damage that are much over 2000 HP a shot, you're going to get pulverized long before you make that 400 HP matter.
	* Against very high HP targets in TW ([[Territory War]]) such as catapult barbarians, 4% HP may translate into 800, 1200, or 1600 HP more HP taken off than demon Sharpened Tooth. While this matters from the prospective that a turtled barbarian will turn all 4 digit damage into low 3-digit damage, it is really insignificant when you consider that '''Bloodvow''' is your choice of skill here. Furthermore if a barbarian managed to turtle in TW, it means you '''lack demon cultivated characters using Mo-Zun's Taunt (chi stealing).'''		* Against very high HP targets in TW ([[Territory War]]) such as catapult barbarians, 4% HP may translate into 800, 1200, or 1600 HP more HP taken off than demon Sharpened Tooth. While this matters from the prospective that a turtled barbarian will turn all 4 digit damage into low 3-digit damage, it is really insignificant when you consider that '''Bloodvow''' is your choice of skill here. Furthermore if a barbarian managed to turtle in TW, it means you <font color=red>'''lack demon cultivated characters using Mo-Zun's Taunt (chi stealing).'''</font>

	== Thoughts and Considerations for End-Game cultivation choice ==		== Thoughts and Considerations for End-Game cultivation choice ==