Talk:Genie Guides - Revision history

PWpedia>Archmoron: /* genie leveling strategies */ new section

2010-12-13T14:51:36Z

genie leveling strategies: new section

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	:That mostly seems kind of redundant/obvious to me. Having more skill slots is more important than appearance, and skill slots are tied to lucky points, therefore a high lucky point ratio is better. Have you seen people in the forums or the game who were confused about that after seeing the information that's already in the article? If so, go ahead and put it in, but otherwise it's probably not necessary. A "How to Get a Lucky Genie" section explaining how high levels can make multiple genies, level them up, when to give up on and decompose them, etc... until they get a good genie might be useful though. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc - PWI wiki mod</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 11:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)		:That mostly seems kind of redundant/obvious to me. Having more skill slots is more important than appearance, and skill slots are tied to lucky points, therefore a high lucky point ratio is better. Have you seen people in the forums or the game who were confused about that after seeing the information that's already in the article? If so, go ahead and put it in, but otherwise it's probably not necessary. A "How to Get a Lucky Genie" section explaining how high levels can make multiple genies, level them up, when to give up on and decompose them, etc... until they get a good genie might be useful though. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc - PWI wiki mod</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 11:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

			== genie leveling strategies ==

			would a discussion of when and how to level one's genie be useful, perhaps?

			the last section has a note to "please do not ever use your exp" (to level up one's genie), but that doesn't seem universally applicable to me. dumping XP into a genie to slow down one's leveling, for farming purposes or even just to get more SP per level for skills, seems to be a common strategy in low-to-mid level ranges. myself, i'd be loathe to ever use anything BUT xp to level my genie; i can't spare any spirit, at my level. probably this changes towards endgame, but when?

PWpedia>Sangodoc: /* Possible addition to Lucky Points section */ Replied

2010-11-30T11:39:51Z

Possible addition to Lucky Points section: Replied

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	Players wanting to maximize their genies must be ruthless with discarding ones that receive low points at low levels. As the probability chart below shows, the chances are weighted towards receiving low or high points, which tends to make this decision easier. There is a 55% chance of getting a 3/10 or worse genie; not worth keeping if the player is aiming for seven skill slots. There is a 34% chance of getting a 9/10 or better genie; obviously these are keepers."<br>[[User:Promethean\|Promethean]] 02:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)		Players wanting to maximize their genies must be ruthless with discarding ones that receive low points at low levels. As the probability chart below shows, the chances are weighted towards receiving low or high points, which tends to make this decision easier. There is a 55% chance of getting a 3/10 or worse genie; not worth keeping if the player is aiming for seven skill slots. There is a 34% chance of getting a 9/10 or better genie; obviously these are keepers."<br>[[User:Promethean\|Promethean]] 02:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

			:That mostly seems kind of redundant/obvious to me. Having more skill slots is more important than appearance, and skill slots are tied to lucky points, therefore a high lucky point ratio is better. Have you seen people in the forums or the game who were confused about that after seeing the information that's already in the article? If so, go ahead and put it in, but otherwise it's probably not necessary. A "How to Get a Lucky Genie" section explaining how high levels can make multiple genies, level them up, when to give up on and decompose them, etc... until they get a good genie might be useful though. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc - PWI wiki mod</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 11:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

PWpedia>Promethean: Possible addition to Lucky Points section

2010-11-30T02:08:25Z

Possible addition to Lucky Points section

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	:Not tested putting the genie in inventory - but yes, you drag the stones onto the genie square in the slot, not onto the portrait/skillbar thing. -- [[User:Vitenks\|Vitenks]] ([[User_talk:Vitenks\|talk]]) 17:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)		:Not tested putting the genie in inventory - but yes, you drag the stones onto the genie square in the slot, not onto the portrait/skillbar thing. -- [[User:Vitenks\|Vitenks]] ([[User_talk:Vitenks\|talk]]) 17:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
	:The guide is partially incorrect. It doesn't matter if the genie is equipped or not, you just have to drag the chi stones onto it in your inventory. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 06:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)		:The guide is partially incorrect. It doesn't matter if the genie is equipped or not, you just have to drag the chi stones onto it in your inventory. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 06:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

			== Possible addition to Lucky Points section ==
			In between the first and second chart:

			"A Genie will become displayed as gold, for example, as soon as it reaches 61 Lucky Points, but not before, no matter how many points per level it gets on the way.

			High level genies, e.g. a Lv.80 genie that is purple (63-75% of max), can be less lucky genies for their level than low levels, e.g. a blue Lv.50 genie, even one with only 41 luck points (80% of max). Therefore, color is considerably less accurate a guide to how lucky a Genie is than comparing the number of luck points to the level.

			This is most important when it comes to the advantage that luck gives that goes beyond aesthetics: additional skills. As the chart below shows, the 5th through 8th bonus skills require relatively high Luck Points. Using the genies from our previous example, we see that the purple Lv.80 genie is destined to have a maximum of six skills, but the blue Lv.50 genie could get the highest number, eight. Applying the principle of "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush", the Lv.80 is also ''assured'' of getting no less than six skill slots, whereas should the Lv.50 be quite unlucky, it could receive as little as five.

			Players wanting to maximize their genies must be ruthless with discarding ones that receive low points at low levels. As the probability chart below shows, the chances are weighted towards receiving low or high points, which tends to make this decision easier. There is a 55% chance of getting a 3/10 or worse genie; not worth keeping if the player is aiming for seven skill slots. There is a 34% chance of getting a 9/10 or better genie; obviously these are keepers."<br>[[User:Promethean\|Promethean]] 02:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

PWpedia>Sangodoc: Noted reason for undoing edit

2010-11-08T08:15:38Z

Noted reason for undoing edit

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			== Suggestion ==

	It looks good I would just add the points needed for it to "evolve" in looks -- '''[[User:Feely\|Feely]]''' 15:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)		It looks good I would just add the points needed for it to "evolve" in looks -- '''[[User:Feely\|Feely]]''' 15:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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	<3 RedsRose		<3 RedsRose

			: I removed what you added because that link already existed in your article. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc - PWI wiki mod</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 08:15, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

	== Starting Stats of Genies errors ==		== Starting Stats of Genies errors ==

PWpedia>Rosiejess: /* A few other suggestions */

2010-11-07T23:29:58Z

A few other suggestions

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	~RedsRose'''''		~RedsRose'''''



			11/7 --> I added a Genie Skill Planner (from my other account name...opps), that was made by Asterelle. I think that it will help those who have requested information on how to add Affinities and those that have had skill questions!!

			<3 RedsRose

	== Starting Stats of Genies errors ==		== Starting Stats of Genies errors ==

PWpedia>Sangodoc: /* Feeding Genies Question */ Responded and signed texts

2010-01-20T06:26:01Z

Feeding Genies Question: Responded and signed texts

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	== Feeding Genies Question==		== Feeding Genies Question==
	Your guide says to be sure the genie is equipped when you feed it Chi stones. I kept trying to drag Chi stones onto the genie party portrait (genie equipped) and it didn't work. I had to actually unequip the genie and drag the Chi stones onto the genie while it was in my inventory to get it to work. Would you mind double-checking this?		Your guide says to be sure the genie is equipped when you feed it Chi stones. I kept trying to drag Chi stones onto the genie party portrait (genie equipped) and it didn't work. I had to actually unequip the genie and drag the Chi stones onto the genie while it was in my inventory to get it to work. Would you mind double-checking this? -- [[User:Enikuo\|Enikuo]] ([[User_talk:Enikuo\|talk]]) 15:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
	:Not tested putting the genie in inventory - but yes, you drag the stones onto the genie square in the slot, not onto the portrait/skillbar thing.		:Not tested putting the genie in inventory - but yes, you drag the stones onto the genie square in the slot, not onto the portrait/skillbar thing. -- [[User:Vitenks\|Vitenks]] ([[User_talk:Vitenks\|talk]]) 17:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
			:The guide is partially incorrect. It doesn't matter if the genie is equipped or not, you just have to drag the chi stones onto it in your inventory. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 06:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

PWpedia>Vitenks at 17:09, 19 January 2010

2010-01-19T17:09:58Z

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	== Feeding Genies Question==		== Feeding Genies Question==
	Your guide says to be sure the genie is equipped when you feed it Chi stones. I kept trying to drag Chi stones onto the genie party portrait (genie equipped) and it didn't work. I had to actually unequip the genie and drag the Chi stones onto the genie while it was in my inventory to get it to work. Would you mind double-checking this?		Your guide says to be sure the genie is equipped when you feed it Chi stones. I kept trying to drag Chi stones onto the genie party portrait (genie equipped) and it didn't work. I had to actually unequip the genie and drag the Chi stones onto the genie while it was in my inventory to get it to work. Would you mind double-checking this?
			:Not tested putting the genie in inventory - but yes, you drag the stones onto the genie square in the slot, not onto the portrait/skillbar thing.

PWpedia>Enikuo at 15:56, 19 January 2010

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	:Yeah, Infliction starts with Vit = 3, and Longevity starts with Magic = 3, so Zeal must start with Dex = 3. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 02:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)		:Yeah, Infliction starts with Vit = 3, and Longevity starts with Magic = 3, so Zeal must start with Dex = 3. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 02:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

	== Feeding Genies ~~Suggestion~~ ==		== Feeding Genies Question==
	~~Would you mind adding directions for feeding Chi stones~~ to ~~genies? 1)Drag~~ the genie ~~into your inventory 2)Drag and drop~~ Chi stones ~~onto the genie, while it is in your inventory~~		Your guide says to be sure the genie is equipped when you feed it Chi stones. I kept trying to drag Chi stones onto the genie party portrait (genie equipped) and it didn't work. I had to actually unequip the genie and drag the Chi stones onto the genie while it was in my inventory to get it to work. Would you mind double-checking this?

	I kept trying to drag Chi stones onto the genie party portrait~~, not realizing~~ it had to be in my inventory.

PWpedia>Enikuo at 15:53, 19 January 2010

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	The starting stats of genies should have two at 5, one at 15, and one at 3, instead of three at 5 and one at 15. The Discipline genie starts with Str = 3, for example. I looked around and couldn't find level 1 genies for sale of the other three types, but I'm pretty sure the Infliction genie starts with Vit = 3. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 04:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)		The starting stats of genies should have two at 5, one at 15, and one at 3, instead of three at 5 and one at 15. The Discipline genie starts with Str = 3, for example. I looked around and couldn't find level 1 genies for sale of the other three types, but I'm pretty sure the Infliction genie starts with Vit = 3. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 04:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
	:Yeah, Infliction starts with Vit = 3, and Longevity starts with Magic = 3, so Zeal must start with Dex = 3. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 02:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)		:Yeah, Infliction starts with Vit = 3, and Longevity starts with Magic = 3, so Zeal must start with Dex = 3. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 02:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

			== Feeding Genies Suggestion ==
			Would you mind adding directions for feeding Chi stones to genies? 1)Drag the genie into your inventory 2)Drag and drop Chi stones onto the genie, while it is in your inventory

			I kept trying to drag Chi stones onto the genie party portrait, not realizing it had to be in my inventory.

PWpedia>Sangodoc: /* A Few Errors? */ More errors to fix

2010-01-14T00:11:44Z

A Few Errors?: More errors to fix

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	and a possible fix for the description...		and a possible fix for the description...
	"By default, it has 3 empty skill slots. You can obtain an additional skill slot with every 40 INT points allocated to the genie. For example, when your genie's INT reaches 40, you obtain one additional skill slot. INT at 80 earns another skill slot etc." -- '''[[User:Darkjagans\|Darkjagans]]''' 07:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)		"By default, it has 3 empty skill slots. You can obtain an additional skill slot with every 40 INT points allocated to the genie. For example, when your genie's INT reaches 40, you obtain one additional skill slot. INT at 80 earns another skill slot etc." -- '''[[User:Darkjagans\|Darkjagans]]''' 07:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

			Still more errors to be fixed. In one spot the elemental affinities are given with Water listed twice, "Lucky" is misspelled as "Lucly" in another, and "Genie’s can forget skills" should be "Genies can forget skills", just to name a few. -- [[User:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#CCCCFF;font-weight:bold;">Sangodoc</span>]] [[User talk:Sangodoc\|<span style="color:#9999CC;font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]] 00:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

	== A few other suggestions ==		== A few other suggestions ==