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	Before we begin: Get yourself a [[Barbarian]]. And a [[Cleric]]. [[Barbarian]]s are superior tankers, and with a [[Cleric]] to keep them alive you'll usually do far better than you will trying to tank yourself.		Before we begin: Get yourself a [[Barbarian]]. And a [[Cleric]]. [[Barbarian]]s are superior tankers, and with a [[Cleric]] to keep them alive you'll usually do far better than you will trying to tank yourself.

PWpedia>Catgirldesu: added monkey/harpy and evolution edits

2014-05-18T12:23:01Z

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	:This pet gets its own full section later on. For now it's worth saying that this pet has a stupidly high defense, stupidly high magical defense, more hitpoints than a battleship and the offensive capabilities of a pink blancmange. (Possibly a poisonous pink blancmange.)		:This pet gets its own full section later on. For now it's worth saying that this pet has a stupidly high defense, stupidly high magical defense, more hitpoints than a battleship and the offensive capabilities of a pink blancmange. (Possibly a poisonous pink blancmange.)

			'''''Harpy'''''

			:Legendary pet, from the [[Cash Shop]].

			: This pet is rather weak in melee range but it can fair pretty well in ranged tanking. The fact that it has a high DPS/damage output will also make it easier for it to hold aggro as well as kill things faster since she's essentially a DD pet and not a tank pet per se.

	'''''Direct Damage / DPS Pets'''''		'''''Direct Damage / DPS Pets'''''
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	So yes practice. Good practice areas include the Scrunchkin Beserkers near kings feast (just north of Krimison) and the various Aerox just South-East of there.		So yes practice. Good practice areas include the Scrunchkin Beserkers near kings feast (just north of Krimison) and the various Aerox just South-East of there.

			With the introduction of the legendary pet Harpy, a different type of AOE grinding is available for venomancers. The Harpy comes with a spam-able AOE wood magic attack that can even work as a continuous AOE much like the seeker's vortex or the wizard's dragon breath.

			If you have a target available, set the Harpy to continuously AOE on it while you pull monsters to your pet. Alternatively, pull monsters and then AOE at the same time with your pet. Keep in my that the Harpy is more vulnerable than the Hercules so the main difference is that with the Harpy you have to pull monsters and kill them fast whereas with the Hercules you have the monsters aggro the pet and then AOE when it's safe (safe meaning that you won't pull aggro off the monsters).

	=== Ranged / Magic Monsters ===		=== Ranged / Magic Monsters ===
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	Most of this class of monster won't chase your pet, however, so unless they happen to be close together, you usually can't persuade more than one at a time to go physical.		Most of this class of monster won't chase your pet, however, so unless they happen to be close together, you usually can't persuade more than one at a time to go physical.

	On the flip side of this - if you have a pet with a ''ranged'' attack (such as the Cactus, or an Eldergoth) - then you can often persuade a monster to use its magical attack instead of a physical attack. (Be sure to turn off your pets default skill, or it will run up to use it, triggering the close range attack.)		On the flip side of this - if you have a pet with a ''ranged'' attack (such as the Cactus, an Eldergoth or the legendary pet Harpy) - then you can often persuade a monster to use its magical attack instead of a physical attack. (Be sure to turn off your pets default skill, or it will run up to use it, triggering the close range attack. This only applies to the Cactus and the Eldergoth however. The Harpy has ranged attack skills by default.)

	This is useful if the monsters ranged attack is particularly weak, compared to its physical attack. Which is a fairly rare situation, but worth knowing about.		This is useful if the monsters ranged attack is particularly weak, compared to its physical attack. Which is a fairly rare situation, but worth knowing about.

	== Air Tank ==		== Air Tank ==
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	I should mention the rare flying pet here. Windwalking Piggy. There, I mentioned it. It's an OK tank, but not much good for anything else and is a pain to get hold of because people tame it to make the all-class baby-pet. You probably don't need it.		I should mention the rare flying pet here. Windwalking Piggy. There, I mentioned it. It's an OK tank, but not much good for anything else and is a pain to get hold of because people tame it to make the all-class baby-pet. You probably don't need it.

			Evolved Baby Hercules (at level 100) can fly. The other legendary pets such as the Monkey King and the Harpy can fly from level 1 both of which are capable of tanking albeit they have limitations. The Hercules remains the better tank.

	== Water Tank ==		== Water Tank ==
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	The top end 'Plumpfish' is probably the best water tank, but is only available at very high levels.		The top end 'Plumpfish' is probably the best water tank, but is only available at very high levels.

			Evolved Baby Hercules and Baby Blazing Phoenix(at level 100) can swim. The other legendary pets such as the Monkey King and the Harpy can swim from level 1. All of them are capable of tanking albeit they have limitations. The Hercules remains the better tank.

PWpedia>Asishi: /* Air Tank */ Fixed Windwalking Piggy's name from "Flying Pig"

2012-11-26T07:46:23Z

Air Tank: Fixed Windwalking Piggy's name from "Flying Pig"

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	Remember that in the air you do only half damage to ground monsters. That can work to help you hold aggro, or can hurt (if you're on the ground and your pet isn't)		Remember that in the air you do only half damage to ground monsters. That can work to help you hold aggro, or can hurt (if you're on the ground and your pet isn't)

	I should mention the rare flying pet here. ~~Flying pig~~. There, I mentioned it. It's an OK tank, but not much good for anything else and is a pain to get hold of because people tame it to make the all-class baby-pet. You probably don't need it.		I should mention the rare flying pet here. Windwalking Piggy. There, I mentioned it. It's an OK tank, but not much good for anything else and is a pain to get hold of because people tame it to make the all-class baby-pet. You probably don't need it.

	== Water Tank ==		== Water Tank ==

PWpedia>Asishi: /* Not A Venomancer? */ Fixed typo (anti changed to ante)

2012-11-26T07:34:12Z

Not A Venomancer?: Fixed typo (anti changed to ante)

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	Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800 DPS) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.		Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800 DPS) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.

	Pay attention to the level of the boss you're fighting. Pets, both Venomancer and Mystic, do not suffer the damage reduction that players do on [?] targets. If you've been playing with a veno and have primarily fighting [?] targets and switch to a numbered leveled target, be prepared to scale back your damage. Conversely, if you've been fighting normal mobs and you get to a [?] boss, you should be able to up the ~~anti~~ sooner than normal.		Pay attention to the level of the boss you're fighting. Pets, both Venomancer and Mystic, do not suffer the damage reduction that players do on [?] targets. If you've been playing with a veno and have primarily fighting [?] targets and switch to a numbered leveled target, be prepared to scale back your damage. Conversely, if you've been fighting normal mobs and you get to a [?] boss, you should be able to up the ante sooner than normal.

	One other thing, which applies no matter who lured: Please be prepared to grab the monsters as they pass you. Ranged and magic monsters especially don't always run where the lurer expects them to, so you might have to move. But please, be prepared to snag them just after they pass you. The lurer may be running a long way back - partly to ensure that the lured monster comes into range, and partly because arcane Venomancers are squishy and archer mobs can 2-shot them.		One other thing, which applies no matter who lured: Please be prepared to grab the monsters as they pass you. Ranged and magic monsters especially don't always run where the lurer expects them to, so you might have to move. But please, be prepared to snag them just after they pass you. The lurer may be running a long way back - partly to ensure that the lured monster comes into range, and partly because arcane Venomancers are squishy and archer mobs can 2-shot them.

PWpedia>Flyingsoloist: /* Not A Venomancer? */ Can't spell.

2011-06-25T00:06:15Z

Not A Venomancer?: Can't spell.

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	Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800 DPS) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.		Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800 DPS) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.

	Pay attention to the level of the boss you're fighting. Pets, both Venomancer and Mystic, do not suffer the damage reduction that players do on [?] targets. If you've been playing with a veno and have primarily fighting [?] targets and switch to a numbered leveled target, be prepared to scale back your damage. ~~Conversly~~, if you've been fighting normal mobs and you get to a [?] boss, you should be able to up the anti sooner than normal.		Pay attention to the level of the boss you're fighting. Pets, both Venomancer and Mystic, do not suffer the damage reduction that players do on [?] targets. If you've been playing with a veno and have primarily fighting [?] targets and switch to a numbered leveled target, be prepared to scale back your damage. Conversely, if you've been fighting normal mobs and you get to a [?] boss, you should be able to up the anti sooner than normal.

	One other thing, which applies no matter who lured: Please be prepared to grab the monsters as they pass you. Ranged and magic monsters especially don't always run where the lurer expects them to, so you might have to move. But please, be prepared to snag them just after they pass you. The lurer may be running a long way back - partly to ensure that the lured monster comes into range, and partly because arcane Venomancers are squishy and archer mobs can 2-shot them.		One other thing, which applies no matter who lured: Please be prepared to grab the monsters as they pass you. Ranged and magic monsters especially don't always run where the lurer expects them to, so you might have to move. But please, be prepared to snag them just after they pass you. The lurer may be running a long way back - partly to ensure that the lured monster comes into range, and partly because arcane Venomancers are squishy and archer mobs can 2-shot them.

PWpedia>Flyingsoloist: /* Not A Venomancer? */ Added note on damage reduction and [?] targets.

2011-06-25T00:05:39Z

Not A Venomancer?: Added note on damage reduction and [?] targets.

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	Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800 DPS) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.		Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800 DPS) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.

			Pay attention to the level of the boss you're fighting. Pets, both Venomancer and Mystic, do not suffer the damage reduction that players do on [?] targets. If you've been playing with a veno and have primarily fighting [?] targets and switch to a numbered leveled target, be prepared to scale back your damage. Conversly, if you've been fighting normal mobs and you get to a [?] boss, you should be able to up the anti sooner than normal.

	One other thing, which applies no matter who lured: Please be prepared to grab the monsters as they pass you. Ranged and magic monsters especially don't always run where the lurer expects them to, so you might have to move. But please, be prepared to snag them just after they pass you. The lurer may be running a long way back - partly to ensure that the lured monster comes into range, and partly because arcane Venomancers are squishy and archer mobs can 2-shot them.		One other thing, which applies no matter who lured: Please be prepared to grab the monsters as they pass you. Ranged and magic monsters especially don't always run where the lurer expects them to, so you might have to move. But please, be prepared to snag them just after they pass you. The lurer may be running a long way back - partly to ensure that the lured monster comes into range, and partly because arcane Venomancers are squishy and archer mobs can 2-shot them.

PWpedia>Flyingsoloist: /* Roar */ Added some small clarification remarks. Namely that Roar clears all existing aggro.

2011-06-24T23:59:26Z

Roar: Added some small clarification remarks. Namely that Roar clears all existing aggro.

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	Frankly, this deserves its own guide, but in short:		Frankly, this deserves its own guide, but in short:

	Roar makes the monster hate your pet more than anything else in the world. The monster ''will'' attack your pet next (although if it's already mid-attack it will finish what it's doing first, and if that attack takes long enough, someone else might have hit it enough to make it change target again...)		Roar makes the monster hate your pet more than anything else in the world. It clears all of the aggro generated by any previous skill and then adds a small amount to your pet. The monster ''will'' attack your pet next (although if it's already mid-attack it will finish what it's doing first, and if that attack takes long enough, someone else might have hit it enough to make it change target again...)

	'''But.'''		'''But.'''

	Roar doesn't make it hate your pet very ''much'' more than everyone else. It doesn't take very much effort for you (or others) to pull the monsters off of your pet again.		Roar doesn't make it hate your pet very ''much'' more than everyone else. It doesn't take very much effort for you (or others) to pull the monsters off of your pet again, especially since all the aggro your pet has been building up is now suddenly gone.

	Higher levels of the skill do draw more aggro, however it is best to treat a monster after a pet-roar as though it was newly pulled.		Higher levels of the skill do draw more aggro, however it is best to treat a monster after a pet-roar as though it was newly pulled.

PWpedia>Sangodoc: More spelling and capitalization fixes

2010-09-19T03:24:09Z

More spelling and capitalization fixes

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PWpedia>Ctstew at 00:21, 19 September 2010

2010-09-19T00:21:08Z

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	'''''Frog'''''		'''''Frog'''''

	:The frog is a rare pet, with a lot of magical ~~defence~~, and a decent physical defence. It doesn't hit very hard, though. Nice and fast.		:The frog is a rare pet, with a lot of magical defense, and a decent physical defence. It doesn't hit very hard, though. Nice and fast.

	'''''Shadou Cub'''''		'''''Shadou Cub'''''
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	:Legendary pet, from the [[Cash Shop]] (or from other players who bought the bits there)		:Legendary pet, from the [[Cash Shop]] (or from other players who bought the bits there)

	:This pet gets its own full section later on. For now it's worth saying that this pet has a stupidly high ~~defence~~, stupidly high magical ~~defence~~, more hitpoints than a battleship and the offensive capabilities of a pink blancmange. (Possibly a poisonous pink blancmange.)		:This pet gets its own full section later on. For now it's worth saying that this pet has a stupidly high defense, stupidly high magical defense, more hitpoints than a battleship and the offensive capabilities of a pink blancmange. (Possibly a poisonous pink blancmange.)

	'''''Direct Damage / DPS Pets'''''		'''''Direct Damage / DPS Pets'''''
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	You need to learn how many monsters your pet can safely take on at once, and how fast (and where) the monsters respawn so that you can replace the dead ones at a useful rate without overwhelming yourself.		You need to learn how many monsters your pet can safely take on at once, and how fast (and where) the monsters respawn so that you can replace the dead ones at a useful rate without overwhelming yourself.

	you need to pay special attention to the modifiers - especially increased ~~defence~~ (which will cause the monsters to hate you more than the pet) and increased (and sacrificial) attack - which you will need to kill sooner than normal monsters (or heal more).		you need to pay special attention to the modifiers - especially increased defense (which will cause the monsters to hate you more than the pet) and increased (and sacrificial) attack - which you will need to kill sooner than normal monsters (or heal more).

	So yes practice. Good practice areas include the scrunchkin beserkers near kings feast (just north of Krimison) and the various aerox just south-east of there.		So yes practice. Good practice areas include the scrunchkin beserkers near kings feast (just north of Krimison) and the various aerox just south-east of there.
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	''Ahem''		''Ahem''

	Right, ok. Yes, turtles. Huge ~~defence~~, they come with tough for even more ~~defence~~, and lots of hitpoints. Slow, but reliable.		Right, ok. Yes, turtles. Huge defense, they come with tough for even more defense, and lots of hitpoints. Slow, but reliable.

	It is a ''huge'' pain to level up a low-end turtle, but they are hugely powerful if you do. The higher end turtles are still pretty good.		It is a ''huge'' pain to level up a low-end turtle, but they are hugely powerful if you do. The higher end turtles are still pretty good.

PWpedia>Vitenks: /* Not A Venomancer? */ please catch the archer

2009-08-24T06:54:59Z

Not A Venomancer?: please catch the archer

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	Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800dps) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.		Now, the Hercules. This draws most of its aggro from reflecting monsters attacks back. On magic-only monsters (I think that the first you will encounter is Hercule Trioc in FB39) this doesn't work. So although the Herc can soak the damage, if you deal more damage than it (and at that level it's doing about 800dps) then you will pull. When we say "Slow Down" we really really mean it.

			One other thing, which applies no matter who lured: Please be prepared to grab the monsters as they pass you. Ranged and magic monsters especially don't always run where the lurer expects them to, so you might have to move. But please, be prepared to snag them just after they pass you. The lurer may be running a long way back - partly to ensure that the lured monster comes into range, and partly because arcane Venomancers are squishy and archer mobs can 2-shot them.

	== Basic Pet Tanking ==		== Basic Pet Tanking ==