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[[Baby Pets]]
==Introduction==




== '''Baby pets''' ==
Baby Pets (also known as All Class Pets) are pets that any character from any class can have. Normally only the Venomancers can have pets at their side, but with these special pets every one can have a side kick to join their adventures in Perfect World International. The only catch of course is that these pets are for display purposes only. Venomancers use their pets in battle, their pets participate in attacking and protect their owner, level up with their owner, and require feeding. Baby pets have none of those characteristics. Baby pets are just for show so you don’t ever need to feed them and they will only follow you around as you run or fly around. An important thing to note is that ground baby pets can not follow you if you are flying (so they will despawn) and air baby pets can not be summoned in a dungeon (due to the height limit).


# Introduction
# How To Get A Baby Pet
# Baby pets List
# Locations Of All Pets


== Introduction ==
Baby pets are divided into two classes:


Baby Pets are a speciality in perfect world this is becuase unlike normal pets that you see with Venomancer,these pets can be used by ALL classes.The pets may be land walking animals or even flying animals but no matter what if your ever feeling lonely dont worry you can have a companion by your side. Baby may look cool and add to your characters charateristics but they dont actually do anything sadly other than follow you around.
Rare Baby Pets – these are the pets that require eggs from rare Venomancer pets to create the all class pet.


== How To Get A Baby Pet ==
Common Baby Pets – these are the pets that are made from normal mobs but cost more eggs to create and more money for the manufacturing.


To get a baby pet you will require a certian amount of a tamable pet that a venomancer has gotten.Venomancer will sell these eggs to you in catshops generally so you can buy them and take the to Mrs. Zoologist at 586 620 and choose Pet Trade This will bring up the list of all the pets that you can manufacture. Each pet will require a different number of eggs and a manufacturing fee. She doesn’t mention the manufacturing fee but Rare Baby Pets cost 100,000 coins to make and Common Baby Pets cost 200,000 coins to make.  Once This has been done go see the Pet Manager (located in every major city) and he will hatch your pet egg for with a small fee aswell. Once that has been done press p and you will see you pet and 3 option Feed Call And Stow Feeding is not needed becuase it is not a normal pet, Call will Summon Your Pet And Stow will Unsummon Your Pet. You can Drag The Pet sign Into Your Action Bar To Call and Stow it faster.


If you want to Give Your Pet custome name you can purchase a pet collow from Mrs. Zoologist for 10,000 coins. Once you have the collar choose The Rename Pet option and drag and drop the icon of your pet that you want to rename, Then Click change and boom your pet has a new name make sure your pet is not summoned when doing this aswell.
==How to Create a Baby Pet==


I will Know List The Availabe Baby Pet Eggs


== Baby pets List ==
Unfortunately the eggs for all the baby pets can only be obtained by Venomancers. So you will either need to find a Venomancer friend who will be able to tame you some of these eggs or you can search for these eggs in the auctions and in cat shops.
{| {| style="background:#0D0B0F" border="22"
|+ Baby Bear
! [[Image:BearIcon.jpg]]
|-
! [[Image:Dodo Bear.jpg]]
|-
! Land Pet
|-
! Requires:
2 Shaodu Cub Pet Eggs lv 20


2 Armored Bear Pet Eggs lv 80
|-
|}


Once you have all the eggs that you require (check the listings below for this information) you will need to go to Mrs. Zoologist to combine your pet eggs.


{| {| style="background:#0D0B0F" border="22"
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1" width="162px"
|+ Baby Snow Hare
|align="center"|[[image:Zoologist.jpg | Mrs. Zoologist]]
! [[Image:HareIcon.jpg]]
|-
|-
! [[Image:Cutie Bunny.jpg‎ ]]
|align="center"|Located in Archosaur South District at (586, 620)
|-
|-
! Land Pet
|}
|-
 
! Requires:


5 Snow Hare lv 20
Double click on her to speak to her and then select the Pet Trade option. This will bring up the list of all the pets that you can manufacture. Each pet will require a different number of eggs and a manufacturing fee. She doesn’t mention the manufacturing fee but Rare Baby Pets cost 100,000 coins to make and Common Baby Pets cost 200,000 coins to make.


|-
|}


Once you have combined your pet you need to see a Pet Manager, which can be found in each major city, to talk to her and select the Hatch Pet option. Place the pet egg in the slot and hatch it, make sure you have at least one empty slot in your pet bag to hatch your pet. Once hatched you can bring up your pet bag (click the P button on your keyboard) and summon your pet for it to appear (click the Call button in the pet bag). To despawn your pet you can simply slick the Stow button in the pet bag. For faster access you can also drag the icon of your pet from your pet bag and add it to your quick shots. This will allow you to simply click the icon to summon and despawn.


{| {| style="background:#0D0B0F" border="22"
|+ Baby Windwalking Piggy
! [[Image:PiggyIcon.jpg]]
|-
! [[Image:Flying_Swine.jpg]]
|-
! Air Pet
|-
! Requires:


5 Windwalking Piggy lvl 30 
'''Tip:''' You’ll notice that above your pet’s body will be its mob name (for example Baby Bear or Baby Cuddly Pup). You can change this by purchasing a pet collar from Mrs. Zoologist (click the Pet Trade option) which costs 10,000 coins. Once you have the collar talk to Mrs. Zoologist and click the Rename Pet option. This will bring up the Rename Pet option and your pet bag. Drag the icon of the pet you want to rename to the Rename Pet box and type in the new name you want to give it. Once you’re done click Change Name and viola your pet will now have the given name over top of it next time you spawn it. Note that you cannot rename a pet if it is summoned so make sure to stow your pet before you rename it.




|-
'''Note:''' There are sample pets that hang out with Mrs. Zoologist. You can kill them but Mrs. Zoologist will not be happy and will attack you for a nice big chunk of your hit points (your HP charm might click depending on your level).
|}
<br/><br/>


==Rare Baby Pets==




{| {| style="background:#0D0B0F" border="22"
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|+ Baby Froggy
|width="32px"|[[image:BearIcon.jpg]]  
! [[Image:FroggyIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Bear'''
|-
|-
! [[Image:Little_Froggy.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyBear.jpg]]
|-
|-
! Land Pet
|colspan="2"|Land Pet
|-
|-
! Requires:
|colspan="2"|Requires:  
 
*2 Shaodu Cub Pet Eggs
8 Frogling lvl 9
*2 Armored Bear Pet Eggs
|-
|}




{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|width="32px"|[[image:HareIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Snow Hare'''
|-
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyHare.jpg]]
|-
|colspan="2"|Land Pet
|-
|colspan="2"|Requires:
*5 Snow Hare Pet Eggs
|-
|-
|}  
|}




{| {| style="background:#0D0B0F" border="22"
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|+ Baby Cuddly Pup
|width="32px"|[[image:PupIcon.jpg]]
! [[Image:PupIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Cuddly Pup'''
|-
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyPup.jpg]]
|-
|-
! [[Image:Gnosis_Hound.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|Land Pet
|-
|-
! Land Pet
|colspan="2"|Requires:
*5 Cuddly Pup Pet Eggs
|-
|-
! Requires:
|}
5 Cuddly Pup lvl 40 (rare pet)




{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|width="32px" |[[image:TabbyIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Tabby Plumdrop'''
|-
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyTabby.jpg]]
|-
|colspan="2"|Land Pet
|-
|colspan="2"|Requires:
*5 Tabbly Plumdrop Pet Eggs
|-
|-
|}  
|}




 
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
{| {| style="background:#0D0B0F" border="22"
|width="32px"|[[image:FroggyIcon.jpg]]
|+ Baby Tabby Plumdrop
|align="center"|'''Baby Froggy'''
! [[Image:TabbyIcon.jpg]]
|-
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyFroggy.jpg]]
|-
|-
! [[Image:Quincunx_Kitten.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|Land Pet
|-
|-
! Land Pet
|colspan="2"|Requires:
*8 Treefrog Pet Eggs
|-
|-
! Requires:
|}
5 Tabby Plumdrop lvl 20 (rare pet)




{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|width="32px"|[[image:PiggyIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Windwalking Piggy'''
|-
|-
|}
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyPiggy.jpg]]
 
 
 
{| {| style="background:#0A0A0A" border="22"
|+ Baby Antelope
! [[Image:DeerIcon.jpg]]
|-
|-
! [[Image:Antilope_Fawn.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|Air Pet
|-
|-
! Land Pet
|colspan="2"|Requires:
*5 Windwalking Piggy Pet Eggs
|-
|-
! Requires:
|}
3 Antelope Pup lvl 30
 
2 Frost Antelope lvl 51


1 Proud Antelope lvl 51


1 Soulchaser Antelope lvl54
==Common Baby Pets==
 
1 Antelope Sage lvl 62 (dungeon lvl 59)


{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|width="32px"|[[image:DeerIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Antelope Pet'''
|-
|-
|}
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyDeer.jpg]]
 
{| {| style="background:#0A0A0A" border="22"
|+ Baby ButterFly Fairy
! [[Image:ButterflyIcon.jpg]]
|-
|-
! [[Image:WaveSclew_Eidolon.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|Land Pet
|-
|-
! Air Pet
|colspan="2"|Requires:
*3 Antelope Pup Pet Eggs
*2 Frost Antelope Pet Eggs
*1 Proud Antelope Pet Egg
*1 Soulchaser Antelope Pet Egg
*1 Antelope Sage Pet Egg
|-
|-
! Requires:
|}
10 Mothran Dazzlewing lvl 80




{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|width="32px"|[[image:HuggyIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Huggy Hare'''
|-
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyHuggy.jpg]]
|-
|colspan="2"|Land Pet
|-
|colspan="2"|Requires:
*10 Huggy Hare Pet Eggs
|-
|-
|}  
|}




{| {| style="background:#0A0A0A" border="22"
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|+ Baby Huggy Hare
|width="32" | [[image:FowlIcon.jpg]]
! [[Image:HuggyIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Elysium Fowl'''
|-
|-
! [[Image:Huggy_Bunny.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyFowl.jpg]]
|-
|-
! Land Pet
|colspan="2"|Air Pet
|-
|-
! Requires:
|colspan="2"|Requires:  
10 Huggy Hare lvl 75
*10 Elysium Fowl Pet Eggs
 
 
|-
|-
|}  
|}




{| {| style="background:#0A0A0A" border="22"
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|+ Baby Foxwing
|width="32px"|[[image:FoxwingIcon.jpg]]
! [[Image:FoxwingIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Foxwing'''
|-
|-
! [[Image:ExtremityTerra EidoFoxie.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyFoxwing.jpg]]
|-
|-
! Air Pet
|colspan="2"|Air Pet
|-
|-
! Requires:
|colspan="2"|Requires:  
3 Snatchfoot Foxwing lvl 37
*3 Snatchfoot Foxwing Pet Eggs
 
*3 Foxwing of the Void Pet Eggs
3 Foxwing of the Void lvl 41
*3 Foxwing Supreme Pet Eggs
 
3 Foxwing Supreme lvl 60
 
 
|-
|-
|}  
|}




{| {| style="background:#0A0A0A" border="22"
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|+ Baby Fire Fairy
|width="32px"|[[image:FireFairyIcon.jpg]]  
! [[Image:FireFairyIcon.jpg]]
|align="center"|'''Baby Fire Fairy'''
|-
|-
! [[Image:Baby_Salamander.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyFireFairy.jpg]]
|-
|-
! Air Pet
|colspan="2"|Air Pet
|-
|-
! Requires:
|colspan="2"|Requires:  
10 Infernal Eidolon lvl 84
*10 Infernal Eidolon Pet Eggs
 
 
|-
|-
|}  
|}




 
{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
{| {| style="background:#0A0A0A" border="22"
|width="32px"|[[image:ButterflyIcon.jpg]]
|+ Baby Elysium Fowl
|align="center"|'''Baby Butterfly Fairy'''
! [[Image:FowlIcon.jpg]]
|-
|-
! [[Image:Elysium_Fledgling.jpg]]
|colspan="2"|[[image:BabyButterfly.jpg]]
|-
|-
! Air Pet
|colspan="2"|Air Pet
|-
|-
! Requires:
|colspan="2"|Requires:  
10 Elysium Fowl lvl 73
*10 Mothran Dazzlewing Pet Eggs
 
 
|-
|-
|}  
|}


== Locations Of All Pets ==
I will List all the location of the baby pet Eggs be aware that the rare pet eggs have a long respawn time


==Pet Locations==


Pet Name


Shaodu Cub Located at(199, 453) and (287, 459) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 20
Here you will find a list of general locations where you can find the pets required to make the all class eggs. Please keep in mind that the spots for rare pets are exact however these pets only spawn at specific times and the coordinates for the normal pets are for a general location where these mobs can be found. The pet level denotes the minimum level of the Venomancer that will be required to tame these pets. All class pets themselves are level 1 however the eggs for the all class pets vary in level.
 
Armored Bear Located at(628, 624) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 80
 
Snow Hare Located at(469, 921) and (501, 1006) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 20
 
Cuddly Pup Located at(299, 764) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 40
 
Tabby Plumdrop Located at(362, 690) and (397, 619) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 20
 
Frogling Located at(196, 513), (239, 549) and (245, 571) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 9
 
Windwalking Piggy Located at(402, 644) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 30
 
Antelope Pup Located at(471, 509) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 30
 
Frost Antelope Located at(419, 477) and (458, 469) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 51
 
Proud Antelope Located at(419, 477) and (458, 469) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 51
 
Soulchaser Antelope Located at(444, 382) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 54
 
Antelope Sage Located at Valley of Disaster in the water valley (FB59) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 62
 
Huggy Hare Located at(655, 586) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 75
 
Elysium Fowl Located at(679, 543) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 73
 
Snatchfoot Foxwing Located at(632, 852) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 37
 
Foxwing of the Void Located at(260, 363) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 41
 
Foxwing Supreme Located at(421, 371) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 60
 
Infernal Eidolon Located at(122, 770) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 84
 
Mothran Dazzlewing Located at(637, 514) and (619, 391) Venomancer Required LV to Capture 80
 
I hope That MY Guide To Baby Pets Helps You With All Your Needs




{| {| style="background:#3D2B1F" border="1"
|'''Pet Name'''
|'''Location'''
|'''Pet Level'''
|-
|Shaodu Cub
|(199, 453) and (287, 459)
|20
|-
|Armored Bear
|(628, 624)
|80
|-
|Snow Hare
|(469, 921) and (501, 1006)
|20
|-
|Cuddly Pup
|(299, 764)
|40
|-
|Tabby Plumdrop
|(362, 690) and (397, 619)
|20
|-
|Frogling
|(196, 513), (239, 549) and (245, 571)
|9
|-
|Windwalking Piggy
|(402, 644)
|30
|-
|Antelope Pup
|(471, 509)
|30
|-
|Frost Antelope
|(419, 477) and (458, 469)
|51
|-
|Proud Antelope
|(419, 477) and (458, 469)
|51
|-
|Soulchaser Antelope
|(444, 382)
|54
|-
|Antelope Sage
|Valley of Disaster in the water valley (FB59)
|62
|-
|Huggy Hare
|(655, 586)
|75
|-
|Elysium Fowl
|(679, 543)
|73
|-
|Snatchfoot Foxwing
|(632, 852)
|37
|-
|Foxwing of the Void
|(260, 363)
|41
|-
|Foxwing Supreme
|(421, 371)
|60
|-
|Infernal Eidolon
|(122, 770)
|84
|-
|Mothran Dazzlewing
|(637, 514) and (619, 391)
|80
|-
|}




--[[User:Rubbaduckazilla|Rubbaduckazilla]] 17:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)Sam Munro Server:HarshLands
--[[User:Atheeni|Atheeni]] 18:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
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Revision as of 01:26, 1 August 2009

Introduction

Baby Pets (also known as All Class Pets) are pets that any character from any class can have. Normally only the Venomancers can have pets at their side, but with these special pets every one can have a side kick to join their adventures in Perfect World International. The only catch of course is that these pets are for display purposes only. Venomancers use their pets in battle, their pets participate in attacking and protect their owner, level up with their owner, and require feeding. Baby pets have none of those characteristics. Baby pets are just for show so you don’t ever need to feed them and they will only follow you around as you run or fly around. An important thing to note is that ground baby pets can not follow you if you are flying (so they will despawn) and air baby pets can not be summoned in a dungeon (due to the height limit).


Baby pets are divided into two classes:

Rare Baby Pets – these are the pets that require eggs from rare Venomancer pets to create the all class pet.

Common Baby Pets – these are the pets that are made from normal mobs but cost more eggs to create and more money for the manufacturing.


How to Create a Baby Pet

Unfortunately the eggs for all the baby pets can only be obtained by Venomancers. So you will either need to find a Venomancer friend who will be able to tame you some of these eggs or you can search for these eggs in the auctions and in cat shops.


Once you have all the eggs that you require (check the listings below for this information) you will need to go to Mrs. Zoologist to combine your pet eggs.


Mrs. Zoologist
Located in Archosaur South District at (586, 620)


Double click on her to speak to her and then select the Pet Trade option. This will bring up the list of all the pets that you can manufacture. Each pet will require a different number of eggs and a manufacturing fee. She doesn’t mention the manufacturing fee but Rare Baby Pets cost 100,000 coins to make and Common Baby Pets cost 200,000 coins to make.


Once you have combined your pet you need to see a Pet Manager, which can be found in each major city, to talk to her and select the Hatch Pet option. Place the pet egg in the slot and hatch it, make sure you have at least one empty slot in your pet bag to hatch your pet. Once hatched you can bring up your pet bag (click the P button on your keyboard) and summon your pet for it to appear (click the Call button in the pet bag). To despawn your pet you can simply slick the Stow button in the pet bag. For faster access you can also drag the icon of your pet from your pet bag and add it to your quick shots. This will allow you to simply click the icon to summon and despawn.


Tip: You’ll notice that above your pet’s body will be its mob name (for example Baby Bear or Baby Cuddly Pup). You can change this by purchasing a pet collar from Mrs. Zoologist (click the Pet Trade option) which costs 10,000 coins. Once you have the collar talk to Mrs. Zoologist and click the Rename Pet option. This will bring up the Rename Pet option and your pet bag. Drag the icon of the pet you want to rename to the Rename Pet box and type in the new name you want to give it. Once you’re done click Change Name and viola your pet will now have the given name over top of it next time you spawn it. Note that you cannot rename a pet if it is summoned so make sure to stow your pet before you rename it.


Note: There are sample pets that hang out with Mrs. Zoologist. You can kill them but Mrs. Zoologist will not be happy and will attack you for a nice big chunk of your hit points (your HP charm might click depending on your level).

Rare Baby Pets

File:BearIcon.jpg Baby Bear
File:BabyBear.jpg
Land Pet
Requires:
  • 2 Shaodu Cub Pet Eggs
  • 2 Armored Bear Pet Eggs


File:HareIcon.jpg Baby Snow Hare
File:BabyHare.jpg
Land Pet
Requires:
  • 5 Snow Hare Pet Eggs


File:PupIcon.jpg Baby Cuddly Pup
File:BabyPup.jpg
Land Pet
Requires:
  • 5 Cuddly Pup Pet Eggs


File:TabbyIcon.jpg Baby Tabby Plumdrop
File:BabyTabby.jpg
Land Pet
Requires:
  • 5 Tabbly Plumdrop Pet Eggs


File:FroggyIcon.jpg Baby Froggy
File:BabyFroggy.jpg
Land Pet
Requires:
  • 8 Treefrog Pet Eggs


File:PiggyIcon.jpg Baby Windwalking Piggy
File:BabyPiggy.jpg
Air Pet
Requires:
  • 5 Windwalking Piggy Pet Eggs


Common Baby Pets

File:DeerIcon.jpg Baby Antelope Pet
File:BabyDeer.jpg
Land Pet
Requires:
  • 3 Antelope Pup Pet Eggs
  • 2 Frost Antelope Pet Eggs
  • 1 Proud Antelope Pet Egg
  • 1 Soulchaser Antelope Pet Egg
  • 1 Antelope Sage Pet Egg


File:HuggyIcon.jpg Baby Huggy Hare
File:BabyHuggy.jpg
Land Pet
Requires:
  • 10 Huggy Hare Pet Eggs


File:FowlIcon.jpg Baby Elysium Fowl
File:BabyFowl.jpg
Air Pet
Requires:
  • 10 Elysium Fowl Pet Eggs


File:FoxwingIcon.jpg Baby Foxwing
File:BabyFoxwing.jpg
Air Pet
Requires:
  • 3 Snatchfoot Foxwing Pet Eggs
  • 3 Foxwing of the Void Pet Eggs
  • 3 Foxwing Supreme Pet Eggs


File:FireFairyIcon.jpg Baby Fire Fairy
File:BabyFireFairy.jpg
Air Pet
Requires:
  • 10 Infernal Eidolon Pet Eggs


File:ButterflyIcon.jpg Baby Butterfly Fairy
File:BabyButterfly.jpg
Air Pet
Requires:
  • 10 Mothran Dazzlewing Pet Eggs


Pet Locations

Here you will find a list of general locations where you can find the pets required to make the all class eggs. Please keep in mind that the spots for rare pets are exact however these pets only spawn at specific times and the coordinates for the normal pets are for a general location where these mobs can be found. The pet level denotes the minimum level of the Venomancer that will be required to tame these pets. All class pets themselves are level 1 however the eggs for the all class pets vary in level.


Pet Name Location Pet Level
Shaodu Cub (199, 453) and (287, 459) 20
Armored Bear (628, 624) 80
Snow Hare (469, 921) and (501, 1006) 20
Cuddly Pup (299, 764) 40
Tabby Plumdrop (362, 690) and (397, 619) 20
Frogling (196, 513), (239, 549) and (245, 571) 9
Windwalking Piggy (402, 644) 30
Antelope Pup (471, 509) 30
Frost Antelope (419, 477) and (458, 469) 51
Proud Antelope (419, 477) and (458, 469) 51
Soulchaser Antelope (444, 382) 54
Antelope Sage Valley of Disaster in the water valley (FB59) 62
Huggy Hare (655, 586) 75
Elysium Fowl (679, 543) 73
Snatchfoot Foxwing (632, 852) 37
Foxwing of the Void (260, 363) 41
Foxwing Supreme (421, 371) 60
Infernal Eidolon (122, 770) 84
Mothran Dazzlewing (637, 514) and (619, 391) 80


--Atheeni 18:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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